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		<title>By: foolhardy</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>foolhardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spotted this on the guardian: 

&lt;a href="http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/news/story/0,,1691339,00.html?gusrc=ticker-103704" rel="nofollow"&gt;[Link]&lt;/a&gt;

finally the boffins have turned their collective attention to the ultimate question -  why am I not funny no matter how hard I try?
If they persist perhaps they will come up with some class of formula which will finally allow me to charm some lass out of her breeches.  I wont have to make do with the ho's once i make with the ho ho's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spotted this on the guardian: </p>
<p><a href="http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/news/story/0,,1691339,00.html?gusrc=ticker-103704" rel="nofollow">[Link]</a></p>
<p>finally the boffins have turned their collective attention to the ultimate question -  why am I not funny no matter how hard I try?<br />
If they persist perhaps they will come up with some class of formula which will finally allow me to charm some lass out of her breeches.  I wont have to make do with the ho&#8217;s once i make with the ho ho&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd say availability is fairly limited, given that most of the W.Wagon tapes (for example) were erased and re-used (as was the cost-cutting practice at the time - see early Dr. Who for details).

Having said that, Jo-Maxi was a fair bit later, so it's possible that tapes still exist. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing...

Funnily enough, my proudest moment as a child was having a drawing of an elephant I'd done held up to the camera by Pat Ingolsby (on either his 'Hat' or 'Chat' show). It was all downhill from there...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say availability is fairly limited, given that most of the W.Wagon tapes (for example) were erased and re-used (as was the cost-cutting practice at the time - see early Dr. Who for details).</p>
<p>Having said that, Jo-Maxi was a fair bit later, so it&#8217;s possible that tapes still exist. Whether that&#8217;s a good thing or a bad thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Funnily enough, my proudest moment as a child was having a drawing of an elephant I&#8217;d done held up to the camera by Pat Ingolsby (on either his &#8216;Hat&#8217; or &#8216;Chat&#8217; show). It was all downhill from there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: foolhardy</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>foolhardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a young garsún a friend of mine appeared (in yellow dungarees) on an "episode" of Pat's Chat and another once made a thorough clown of himself reviewing videos on Jo-Maxi. Does anyone know of the archived availability of such things as I fancy honing my blackmailing skills?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a young garsún a friend of mine appeared (in yellow dungarees) on an &#8220;episode&#8221; of Pat&#8217;s Chat and another once made a thorough clown of himself reviewing videos on Jo-Maxi. Does anyone know of the archived availability of such things as I fancy honing my blackmailing skills?</p>
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		<title>By: foolhardy</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>foolhardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fústar, ah the old single sided "sticky tape" (Sellotape) back looping trick. It never really did work properly, particularly if a lengthy piece were needed. The only solution was loads of little loops which meant bulk and, ultimately, a rather disappointing make-and-do session. As for the pipe cleaners - was Bosco sponsored by the tobacco industry?
Out of interest, where does one's career go after serving time on Bosco et al I wonder? 
Hollywood? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fústar, ah the old single sided &#8220;sticky tape&#8221; (Sellotape) back looping trick. It never really did work properly, particularly if a lengthy piece were needed. The only solution was loads of little loops which meant bulk and, ultimately, a rather disappointing make-and-do session. As for the pipe cleaners - was Bosco sponsored by the tobacco industry?<br />
Out of interest, where does one&#8217;s career go after serving time on Bosco et al I wonder?<br />
Hollywood?</p>
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		<title>By: copernicus</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>copernicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 02:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The magic door had a kind of anti-midas touch all right (yes, I know the Midas touch was a disaster for Midas).

Phillip would pop through in his electric lemon pants and fetch up in an ice-cream factory, but instead of being a place of Willy Wonka style delights, it turned out to be all aluminium and distrubing looking "chocolate".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The magic door had a kind of anti-midas touch all right (yes, I know the Midas touch was a disaster for Midas).</p>
<p>Phillip would pop through in his electric lemon pants and fetch up in an ice-cream factory, but instead of being a place of Willy Wonka style delights, it turned out to be all aluminium and distrubing looking &#8220;chocolate&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon,

I never got over the time that Philip (or whoever it was) popped through the 'Magic Door' and came out the other side in.......a &lt;em&gt;sausage factory&lt;/em&gt;!!

The only way it could have been &lt;em&gt;less&lt;/em&gt; magic, and more disturbing, was if it had been an abattoir...

I didn't touch a banger for the next 15 years...

foolhardy,

I also bore the indignity of never having double-sided sticky tape, or pipe cleaners, in the house. I attempted to fool myself (and my friends) with &lt;em&gt;single&lt;/em&gt;-sided tape (looped back on itself) and bendy straws. I'm not the better of the shame yet...

copernicus,

Thought about Sláine but he doesn't really cut it. I mean, he didn't develop X-Ray vision from exposure to massive doses of radiation or anything like it. He falls more into the Cúchulainn camp (although he did/does have that natty warp spasm thing going on).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon,</p>
<p>I never got over the time that Philip (or whoever it was) popped through the &#8216;Magic Door&#8217; and came out the other side in&#8230;&#8230;.a <em>sausage factory</em>!!</p>
<p>The only way it could have been <em>less</em> magic, and more disturbing, was if it had been an abattoir&#8230;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t touch a banger for the next 15 years&#8230;</p>
<p>foolhardy,</p>
<p>I also bore the indignity of never having double-sided sticky tape, or pipe cleaners, in the house. I attempted to fool myself (and my friends) with <em>single</em>-sided tape (looped back on itself) and bendy straws. I&#8217;m not the better of the shame yet&#8230;</p>
<p>copernicus,</p>
<p>Thought about Sláine but he doesn&#8217;t really cut it. I mean, he didn&#8217;t develop X-Ray vision from exposure to massive doses of radiation or anything like it. He falls more into the Cúchulainn camp (although he did/does have that natty warp spasm thing going on).</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chaps,

It's funny the subject of the Wagon that is Wanderly has come up. There will be a tasty Wanderly titbit forthcoming from fustar.org soon (hopefully). 

I watched the DVD recently myself and, aside from the whole thing being cheerfully made for tuppence ha'penny, the surreal and magical qualities copernicus speaks of were delightfully present and correct.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chaps,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny the subject of the Wagon that is Wanderly has come up. There will be a tasty Wanderly titbit forthcoming from fustar.org soon (hopefully). </p>
<p>I watched the DVD recently myself and, aside from the whole thing being cheerfully made for tuppence ha&#8217;penny, the surreal and magical qualities copernicus speaks of were delightfully present and correct.</p>
<p>Watch this space&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: foolhardy</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>foolhardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Copernicus, let's not get carried away. As great and all as Wanderly Wagon was, it was no Anything Goes. Nothing sums up life in 80's Ireland in quite the same way as some punter trying to eat a cream bun without licking their lips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copernicus, let&#8217;s not get carried away. As great and all as Wanderly Wagon was, it was no Anything Goes. Nothing sums up life in 80&#8217;s Ireland in quite the same way as some punter trying to eat a cream bun without licking their lips.</p>
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		<title>By: copernicus</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>copernicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foolhardy, I bet we could decode Wanderly Wagon's by determining which adornments of the Irish political firmament characters such as Sneaky Snake and Mr. Crow were supposed to represent.

I think you'll find it was not a million miles away from Donald Duck's Atomic Bomb (see fústar' interesting post on this) in terms of its subversive content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foolhardy, I bet we could decode Wanderly Wagon&#8217;s by determining which adornments of the Irish political firmament characters such as Sneaky Snake and Mr. Crow were supposed to represent.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll find it was not a million miles away from Donald Duck&#8217;s Atomic Bomb (see fústar&#8217; interesting post on this) in terms of its subversive content.</p>
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		<title>By: copernicus</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>copernicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fústar, can we not claim Sláine from 2000D as an "Irish" superhero?  On reflection, the term "superhero" is probably the preserve of characters from (and set in) the 1930s and onward.

I think Mick and John have sold film rights to Hollywood for colometers, so maybe we'll have one on the big screen afore long; helping to get the sour taste of Leprechaun in the Hood out of our mouths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fústar, can we not claim Sláine from 2000D as an &#8220;Irish&#8221; superhero?  On reflection, the term &#8220;superhero&#8221; is probably the preserve of characters from (and set in) the 1930s and onward.</p>
<p>I think Mick and John have sold film rights to Hollywood for colometers, so maybe we&#8217;ll have one on the big screen afore long; helping to get the sour taste of Leprechaun in the Hood out of our mouths.</p>
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		<title>By: foolhardy</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>foolhardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon, many thanks although, frankly, I'm shocked.  Granted, I have yet to watch the DVDs in question but I think you must surely be barking mad. The only thing I can credit Bosco with (aside of course from the noteworthy ability to remain perpetually 5 - Bart Simpson eat your little yellow heart out) is that it was years ahead of the pack on the whole gender non-specificity issue. RTÉ were never so hip! This is scant consolation for the trauma and shame of my having never so much as seen a roll of double-sided sticky tape. 
Wanderly wagon, on the other hand, featured a rather convincing snake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon, many thanks although, frankly, I&#8217;m shocked.  Granted, I have yet to watch the DVDs in question but I think you must surely be barking mad. The only thing I can credit Bosco with (aside of course from the noteworthy ability to remain perpetually 5 - Bart Simpson eat your little yellow heart out) is that it was years ahead of the pack on the whole gender non-specificity issue. RTÉ were never so hip! This is scant consolation for the trauma and shame of my having never so much as seen a roll of double-sided sticky tape.<br />
Wanderly wagon, on the other hand, featured a rather convincing snake!</p>
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		<title>By: copernicus</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently watched Wanderly Wagon and have to say its surreal qualities were welcomely intact.

It gave me a bit of a start though to see how young O'Brien was to my 31 year old eyes.

A nice dvd extra would have been the safe cross code with Judge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently watched Wanderly Wagon and have to say its surreal qualities were welcomely intact.</p>
<p>It gave me a bit of a start though to see how young O&#8217;Brien was to my 31 year old eyes.</p>
<p>A nice dvd extra would have been the safe cross code with Judge.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon McGarr</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon McGarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If helpful, I can confirm that on watching both Wanderly Wagon and Bosco on DVD, it is the latter that better stands the test of time. 

And the Magic Door is still magic. 

Except for the bark rubbings. I hated the bark rubbings. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If helpful, I can confirm that on watching both Wanderly Wagon and Bosco on DVD, it is the latter that better stands the test of time. </p>
<p>And the Magic Door is still magic. </p>
<p>Except for the bark rubbings. I hated the bark rubbings.</p>
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		<title>By: foolhardy</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-300</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fret not Senor Fústar, I have recently noticed that RTÉ are flogging off DVDs featuring Wanderly Wagon no less. Nothing like a spot of the Pickarooney to stimulate the memory and induce a dose of the runs. For the younger viewer (You can't lie to me Fústar!) there is also a, no doubt shite awful, collection of Bosco moments. Surely Gregory Grainneog, Corrie Crow, Charlie Crown and the lads make an appearance. Class. I believe upcoming RTÉ titles include; "Mailbag - whingeing for Ireland", "Mart and Market - I'll fucking ebay you", "Garda Patrol - step away from the veh-hicle", "The Angelus - the angelus", "Children and the improbable places they drown" and, lest we forget, "Ads featuring profoundly deaf children and the nuns who wrangle them". mmBAH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fret not Senor Fústar, I have recently noticed that RTÉ are flogging off DVDs featuring Wanderly Wagon no less. Nothing like a spot of the Pickarooney to stimulate the memory and induce a dose of the runs. For the younger viewer (You can&#8217;t lie to me Fústar!) there is also a, no doubt shite awful, collection of Bosco moments. Surely Gregory Grainneog, Corrie Crow, Charlie Crown and the lads make an appearance. Class. I believe upcoming RTÉ titles include; &#8220;Mailbag - whingeing for Ireland&#8221;, &#8220;Mart and Market - I&#8217;ll fucking ebay you&#8221;, &#8220;Garda Patrol - step away from the veh-hicle&#8221;, &#8220;The Angelus - the angelus&#8221;, &#8220;Children and the improbable places they drown&#8221; and, lest we forget, &#8220;Ads featuring profoundly deaf children and the nuns who wrangle them&#8221;. mmBAH!</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/18/summon-the-deathlords/#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have had a quick t'internet search but sadly (or perhaps happily) there were no images from &lt;em&gt;Spraoi&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;Súgradh &lt;/em&gt; to be found...

All this talk of British comic book heroes of times' past begs the question: Where are their Irish equivalents? The ever informative &lt;a href="http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/cuchulainn.htm"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;internationalhero.co.uk&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; has Cúchulainn as the sole entry for Ireland. While he certainly fits the bill in terms of heroism, he's not quite Spider-Man, is he?

There have, of course, been (super-heroic) Irish characters in the Marvel Universe...&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee_(comics)"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Banshee&lt;/strong&gt;,&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/kinsmensrn.htm#rapsc"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Boulder&lt;/strong&gt;,&lt;/a&gt; Rapscallion, Highlander (ed: The Highlands are in Scotland...but never mind) etc., but they're almost universally of the "Sure and Beggorah" school of cack, and fairly cringeworthy.

Mick and John Kelly have come up with the (Hellboy-esque) &lt;a href="http://www.colometersdavis.com/frameset.html"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Colometers Davis&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; I suppose...but there really aren't any &lt;em&gt;iconic&lt;/em&gt; Irish-produced super-lads and lassies.

I guess the idea of superheroes and villians battling it out in Eyre Sq. (Galway) just isn't &lt;em&gt;quite&lt;/em&gt; as evocative as Dr. Doom squaring off against The Fantastic 4 in downtown Manhatttan.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have had a quick t&#8217;internet search but sadly (or perhaps happily) there were no images from <em>Spraoi</em> or <em>Súgradh </em> to be found&#8230;</p>
<p>All this talk of British comic book heroes of times&#8217; past begs the question: Where are their Irish equivalents? The ever informative <a href="http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/cuchulainn.htm"><strong>internationalhero.co.uk</strong></a> has Cúchulainn as the sole entry for Ireland. While he certainly fits the bill in terms of heroism, he&#8217;s not quite Spider-Man, is he?</p>
<p>There have, of course, been (super-heroic) Irish characters in the Marvel Universe&#8230;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee_(comics)"><strong>Banshee</strong>,</a> <a href="http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/kinsmensrn.htm#rapsc"><strong>Boulder</strong>,</a> Rapscallion, Highlander (ed: The Highlands are in Scotland&#8230;but never mind) etc., but they&#8217;re almost universally of the &#8220;Sure and Beggorah&#8221; school of cack, and fairly cringeworthy.</p>
<p>Mick and John Kelly have come up with the (Hellboy-esque) <a href="http://www.colometersdavis.com/frameset.html"><strong>Colometers Davis</strong></a> I suppose&#8230;but there really aren&#8217;t any <em>iconic</em> Irish-produced super-lads and lassies.</p>
<p>I guess the idea of superheroes and villians battling it out in Eyre Sq. (Galway) just isn&#8217;t <em>quite</em> as evocative as Dr. Doom squaring off against The Fantastic 4 in downtown Manhatttan.</p>
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