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		<title>By: fústar</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2007/10/22/flights-of-flopear/#comment-73928</link>
		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;Neelix= Jar Jar Binks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Absolutely, but lame as the Star Wars prequels are, one can't help but admire the direction Jar Jar was taken in.

In &lt;em&gt;Attack of the Clones&lt;/em&gt; he is left as acting representative to Naboo in the Galactic Senate (with predictably disastrous results). He calls for a vote to give Palpatine emergency powers - a decision which leads, ultimately, to the creation of the Galactic Empire! It's like a &lt;em&gt;Three Stooges&lt;/em&gt; short where the lads are left in charge of a china shop.

Does this show that, contrary to all appearances, ol' fat-head Lucas actually has a sense of humour?</description>
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<p>Absolutely, but lame as the Star Wars prequels are, one can&#8217;t help but admire the direction Jar Jar was taken in.</p>
<p>In <em>Attack of the Clones</em> he is left as acting representative to Naboo in the Galactic Senate (with predictably disastrous results). He calls for a vote to give Palpatine emergency powers - a decision which leads, ultimately, to the creation of the Galactic Empire! It&#8217;s like a <em>Three Stooges</em> short where the lads are left in charge of a china shop.</p>
<p>Does this show that, contrary to all appearances, ol&#8217; fat-head Lucas actually has a sense of humour?</p>
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		<title>By: Green Ink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neelix= Jar Jar Binks.</description>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ubiquity of Neelix seemed motivated by a perverse desire (on the part of the producers) to give the show's most loathed character as much screen-time as possible. The more they tried to "build him up" and give him some (ha!) substance, the more I wanted to punch him in his muppety face.

The Doctor was crap too. Another "hilarious" side-kick type character who dragged the show further into the realms of a kiddy, sci-fi, sitcom.

As for Janeway's voice (which I can still do a fair impression of), it was never more tooth-grindingly awful than when pleading the right of "Mr. Tuvix" to live, love and be free. Oh and the other 1/2 of the Tuvix symbiote (Tuvok) was rubbish as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ubiquity of Neelix seemed motivated by a perverse desire (on the part of the producers) to give the show&#8217;s most loathed character as much screen-time as possible. The more they tried to &#8220;build him up&#8221; and give him some (ha!) substance, the more I wanted to punch him in his muppety face.</p>
<p>The Doctor was crap too. Another &#8220;hilarious&#8221; side-kick type character who dragged the show further into the realms of a kiddy, sci-fi, sitcom.</p>
<p>As for Janeway&#8217;s voice (which I can still do a fair impression of), it was never more tooth-grindingly awful than when pleading the right of &#8220;Mr. Tuvix&#8221; to live, love and be free. Oh and the other 1/2 of the Tuvix symbiote (Tuvok) was rubbish as well.</p>
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		<title>By: graylien</title>
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		<dc:creator>graylien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I suppose there was much more of Neelix. You couldn't watch an episode of Voyager without him rearing his ugly head at some point. Whereas there are plenty of TNG episodes unmarred by the presence of Crusher junior.

Come to think of it, that holographic doctor was pretty annoying, too. Not to mention Capt Janeway's annoying voice. 

Jeez - no wonder that crew was so tense. Whatever part of the ship you tried to hide in, you could guarantee that someone really annoying would be along in a minute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I suppose there was much more of Neelix. You couldn&#8217;t watch an episode of Voyager without him rearing his ugly head at some point. Whereas there are plenty of TNG episodes unmarred by the presence of Crusher junior.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, that holographic doctor was pretty annoying, too. Not to mention Capt Janeway&#8217;s annoying voice. </p>
<p>Jeez - no wonder that crew was so tense. Whatever part of the ship you tried to hide in, you could guarantee that someone really annoying would be along in a minute.</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>graylien, I'd forgotten about "Sub Rosa". Christ, that was wretched...

I'd still opt for Neelix as most irritating character. He just ticks &lt;em&gt;every&lt;/em&gt; conceivable box of awfulness. Wesley, in fairness to him, did become &lt;em&gt;slightly&lt;/em&gt; less annoying as the years passed. His colourful, intergalactic, transdimensional love affair with that traveller fella from Tau Alpha C (or wherever) was also far less winsome than Neelix's relationship with that pixie woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>graylien, I&#8217;d forgotten about &#8220;Sub Rosa&#8221;. Christ, that was wretched&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d still opt for Neelix as most irritating character. He just ticks <em>every</em> conceivable box of awfulness. Wesley, in fairness to him, did become <em>slightly</em> less annoying as the years passed. His colourful, intergalactic, transdimensional love affair with that traveller fella from Tau Alpha C (or wherever) was also far less winsome than Neelix&#8217;s relationship with that pixie woman.</p>
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		<title>By: graylien</title>
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		<dc:creator>graylien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yay - Flopear! It's like Christmas come early!

As for Trek - yes, the Tuvix episode sucked but it wasn't as bad as that TNG episode where Beverley Crusher had a fling with a Scottish ghost. (Sub Rosa)

I'm still undecided as to which is the most irritating Star Trek character - Neelix or Wesley Crusher. You certainly wouldn't want to get stuck in a lift with those two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yay - Flopear! It&#8217;s like Christmas come early!</p>
<p>As for Trek - yes, the Tuvix episode sucked but it wasn&#8217;t as bad as that TNG episode where Beverley Crusher had a fling with a Scottish ghost. (Sub Rosa)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still undecided as to which is the most irritating Star Trek character - Neelix or Wesley Crusher. You certainly wouldn&#8217;t want to get stuck in a lift with those two.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon McGarr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon McGarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In contrast, I'll watch anything with a time machine.</description>
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		<title>By: Green Ink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! The Tuvix episode was foremost in my mind when i wrote that! Where TV sci-fi always falls down is the magic button... you know, that gnawing contrivance in a script where there just happens to be the right ingredients to make everything right. In the A-team it was being locked in a shed with a chassis and a FAS course-worth of welding equipment. In Voyager (which I couldn't in the end watch for fear my eyes would puke) and Enterprise it was time-travel. If time-travel ever came up in a ST iteration I did like I just did a mental squint with the whole episode and made like it didn't happen. Doctor Who has one magic button per episode, but I actually can get by most of them as I love the direction it's taken, as a study in loneliness. Yes it's silly, but the moments of pathos are worth it. His dwindling stock of mercy is another clincher for me (Family of Blood).
Oh yes, I've just remembered Catherine Tate has been added to the cast for the new series. 

Here comes a mental squint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! The Tuvix episode was foremost in my mind when i wrote that! Where TV sci-fi always falls down is the magic button&#8230; you know, that gnawing contrivance in a script where there just happens to be the right ingredients to make everything right. In the A-team it was being locked in a shed with a chassis and a FAS course-worth of welding equipment. In Voyager (which I couldn&#8217;t in the end watch for fear my eyes would puke) and Enterprise it was time-travel. If time-travel ever came up in a ST iteration I did like I just did a mental squint with the whole episode and made like it didn&#8217;t happen. Doctor Who has one magic button per episode, but I actually can get by most of them as I love the direction it&#8217;s taken, as a study in loneliness. Yes it&#8217;s silly, but the moments of pathos are worth it. His dwindling stock of mercy is another clincher for me (Family of Blood).<br />
Oh yes, I&#8217;ve just remembered Catherine Tate has been added to the cast for the new series. </p>
<p>Here comes a mental squint.</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fustar.infofustar.info
Green Ink,

I (like a lot of Sci-Fi fans I'd imagine) have mixed feelings about the &lt;em&gt;Star Trek&lt;/em&gt; "franchise". I (still) love the original series, and loved both &lt;em&gt;The Next Generation&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Deep Space Nine&lt;/em&gt;...at the time.

Leaving aside the original series,  and taking the others in turn, here are a few brief thoughts -

&lt;em&gt;TNG&lt;/em&gt; - Occasional preachy tone and comfy, self-satisfied "lounge in space" feel often threatened to scupper it. What saved it were numerous very well-written and well-executed episodes and the superb central performance of Patrick Stewart. I honestly feel if it weren't for him lending gravitas and depth (in a sea of daytime TV regulars) the show would have flopped and the subsequent iterations would never have gotten going.
&lt;em&gt;
Deep Space 9&lt;/em&gt; - Possibly my favourite of the bunch (apart from the original). Took ages to get going but the arrival of the Defiant really opened things up. Often epic in scope and mercifully willing to take a critical look at the scarily squeaky-clean Federation (Julian's encounters with Star Fleet secret service etc).
&lt;em&gt;
Voyager&lt;/em&gt; - Criticising it is like punching dead kittens in a barrel of shit but this is undoubtedly where the wheels came off. Weak cast, soap-style emoting, juvenile comedy, a laboured and tiresome premise, endlessly rehashed narratives from previous shows and (lest we forget) the &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;worst&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; moment in &lt;em&gt;Trek&lt;/em&gt; history...&lt;a href="http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/17/its-life-jim/" rel="nofollow"&gt;the Tuvix episode&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;em&gt;
Enterprise&lt;/em&gt; - Nice attempt at a grittier, more "human" and home-made brand of Sci-Fi. Tried to match (and anticipate) some of the things that made/make &lt;em&gt;Firefly&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Battlestar Galactica&lt;/em&gt; (etc) so involving. Ultimately failed by (once again) retreating to familiar ground (Not another "crash-landed on a planet with your nemesis" episode, please!!), and turning an intriguing premise into something pretty banal and boring.

Overall the Trek universe lacks the balls to go to the dark (or, even, "less than perfect") place often enough. Less carpeting, less shininess, less "self help" touchy-feelliness, and &lt;em&gt;lots&lt;/em&gt; more dirty, flawed, ambiguous "stuff" is needed if it's ever to bounce back.</description>
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Green Ink,</p>
<p>I (like a lot of Sci-Fi fans I&#8217;d imagine) have mixed feelings about the <em>Star Trek</em> &#8220;franchise&#8221;. I (still) love the original series, and loved both <em>The Next Generation</em> and <em>Deep Space Nine</em>&#8230;at the time.</p>
<p>Leaving aside the original series,  and taking the others in turn, here are a few brief thoughts -</p>
<p><em>TNG</em> - Occasional preachy tone and comfy, self-satisfied &#8220;lounge in space&#8221; feel often threatened to scupper it. What saved it were numerous very well-written and well-executed episodes and the superb central performance of Patrick Stewart. I honestly feel if it weren&#8217;t for him lending gravitas and depth (in a sea of daytime TV regulars) the show would have flopped and the subsequent iterations would never have gotten going.<br />
<em><br />
Deep Space 9</em> - Possibly my favourite of the bunch (apart from the original). Took ages to get going but the arrival of the Defiant really opened things up. Often epic in scope and mercifully willing to take a critical look at the scarily squeaky-clean Federation (Julian&#8217;s encounters with Star Fleet secret service etc).<br />
<em><br />
Voyager</em> - Criticising it is like punching dead kittens in a barrel of shit but this is undoubtedly where the wheels came off. Weak cast, soap-style emoting, juvenile comedy, a laboured and tiresome premise, endlessly rehashed narratives from previous shows and (lest we forget) the <em><strong>worst</strong></em> moment in <em>Trek</em> history&#8230;<a href="http://www.fustar.info/2006/01/17/its-life-jim/" rel="nofollow">the Tuvix episode</a>.<br />
<em><br />
Enterprise</em> - Nice attempt at a grittier, more &#8220;human&#8221; and home-made brand of Sci-Fi. Tried to match (and anticipate) some of the things that made/make <em>Firefly</em>, <em>Battlestar Galactica</em> (etc) so involving. Ultimately failed by (once again) retreating to familiar ground (Not another &#8220;crash-landed on a planet with your nemesis&#8221; episode, please!!), and turning an intriguing premise into something pretty banal and boring.</p>
<p>Overall the Trek universe lacks the balls to go to the dark (or, even, &#8220;less than perfect&#8221;) place often enough. Less carpeting, less shininess, less &#8220;self help&#8221; touchy-feelliness, and <em>lots</em> more dirty, flawed, ambiguous &#8220;stuff&#8221; is needed if it&#8217;s ever to bounce back.</p>
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		<title>By: Green Ink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never miss an opportunity to berate Voyager. It was evil in it's shiteness. 

I'd also offer lazy writing rather than knowing intertextuality with the TARDIS reference. 
This really reminds me of that sequence from Speilberg's Taken where the kid follows the cartoony-looking squirrel into a cartoony-looking house and as the squirrel closes the door he pauses and sneers through the gap. It was one of the most (in this case deliberately) sinister moments I've ever seen on television.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never miss an opportunity to berate Voyager. It was evil in it&#8217;s shiteness. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also offer lazy writing rather than knowing intertextuality with the TARDIS reference.<br />
This really reminds me of that sequence from Speilberg&#8217;s Taken where the kid follows the cartoony-looking squirrel into a cartoony-looking house and as the squirrel closes the door he pauses and sneers through the gap. It was one of the most (in this case deliberately) sinister moments I&#8217;ve ever seen on television.</p>
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