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	<title>Comments on: V: Friendship is Universal</title>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie was ever so slightly cross-eyed as well, which managed (though it seems scarcely possible) to make her even &lt;em&gt;more&lt;/em&gt; adorable. Be still my...er.. heart.

Is the book actually good? The cynic in me expected a rather half-baked cash-in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie was ever so slightly cross-eyed as well, which managed (though it seems scarcely possible) to make her even <em>more</em> adorable. Be still my&#8230;er.. heart.</p>
<p>Is the book actually good? The cynic in me expected a rather half-baked cash-in.</p>
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		<title>By: julie d</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2008/02/09/v-friendship-is-universal/#comment-76313</link>
		<dc:creator>julie d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh - so fabulous!!! I was and am still obsessed by V.  My crush on Donovan even with his scarey spray on pants still holds fast - he is my guilty pleasure!  Julie is still my hero partly because she was cool and gorgeous and rock hard - but mainly because she manged to bag herself a Donovan!  Loving the new book - hoping beyond hope for a screen version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh - so fabulous!!! I was and am still obsessed by V.  My crush on Donovan even with his scarey spray on pants still holds fast - he is my guilty pleasure!  Julie is still my hero partly because she was cool and gorgeous and rock hard - but mainly because she manged to bag herself a Donovan!  Loving the new book - hoping beyond hope for a screen version.</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2008/02/09/v-friendship-is-universal/#comment-75048</link>
		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;Now of course I can stay up all night.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


It's a bit like a "free house". Never the same when it's your own.

The forked tongue baby scene was a defining moment in "our" generation's attitude to pre-marital sex, conception etc. I'm not sure what it taught us exaclty, but it certainly created a deep-seated trauma.



&lt;blockquote&gt;the big SFX sequence in the last episode, with the dam being blown up etc., was cogged wholesale from “Earthquake”….&lt;/blockquote&gt;



While there was little that was particularly original about V, the first mini-series, in particular, is still one of the most well-sustained on-screen imaginings of how a "benevolent" invasion scenario might pan out.

A lot of the show's Science Fiction is pretty wafer thin (and certainly wouldn't satisfy picky fans of the genre) but it holds together as a drama in spite of such failings.

A few other things I forgot to mention.

1) Mike Donovan's pants are &lt;em&gt;ludicrously&lt;/em&gt; tight. It's a miracle he manages to rouse himself sufficiently to come on to Julie.

2) When Mike and Julie finally have a tender moment, born out of mutual respect, the scene is brutally shafted by some outrageous porn-sax music! This even happens when they embrace, cold and afraid, on a beach the night before the big attack. Hardcore sax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now of course I can stay up all night.
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<p>It&#8217;s a bit like a &#8220;free house&#8221;. Never the same when it&#8217;s your own.</p>
<p>The forked tongue baby scene was a defining moment in &#8220;our&#8221; generation&#8217;s attitude to pre-marital sex, conception etc. I&#8217;m not sure what it taught us exaclty, but it certainly created a deep-seated trauma.</p>
<blockquote><p>the big SFX sequence in the last episode, with the dam being blown up etc., was cogged wholesale from “Earthquake”….</p></blockquote>
<p>While there was little that was particularly original about V, the first mini-series, in particular, is still one of the most well-sustained on-screen imaginings of how a &#8220;benevolent&#8221; invasion scenario might pan out.</p>
<p>A lot of the show&#8217;s Science Fiction is pretty wafer thin (and certainly wouldn&#8217;t satisfy picky fans of the genre) but it holds together as a drama in spite of such failings.</p>
<p>A few other things I forgot to mention.</p>
<p>1) Mike Donovan&#8217;s pants are <em>ludicrously</em> tight. It&#8217;s a miracle he manages to rouse himself sufficiently to come on to Julie.</p>
<p>2) When Mike and Julie finally have a tender moment, born out of mutual respect, the scene is brutally shafted by some outrageous porn-sax music! This even happens when they embrace, cold and afraid, on a beach the night before the big attack. Hardcore sax.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V was great, I watched it again recently too for teh lulz.  the big SFX sequence in the last episode, with the dam being blown up etc., was cogged wholesale from "Earthquake"....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V was great, I watched it again recently too for teh lulz.  the big SFX sequence in the last episode, with the dam being blown up etc., was cogged wholesale from &#8220;Earthquake&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Green Ink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus I used to get in so much shit for sneaking downstairs to watch the second series of V when everyone was in bed. Now of course I can stay up all night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus I used to get in so much shit for sneaking downstairs to watch the second series of V when everyone was in bed. Now of course I can stay up all night.</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;it caused a hell of a shitstorm on Mailbag, hah remember that show. I think it was the visitors eating mice that upset people the most.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Didn't Arthur Murphy dress up as "John" (visitor leader) and swallow a hamster before ripping off his face? &lt;em&gt;Migh&lt;/em&gt;t have been a dream...



&lt;blockquote&gt;I see you’re short-listed for Best Blog. Well done.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Tanks very mush. Same to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>it caused a hell of a shitstorm on Mailbag, hah remember that show. I think it was the visitors eating mice that upset people the most.</p></blockquote>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Arthur Murphy dress up as &#8220;John&#8221; (visitor leader) and swallow a hamster before ripping off his face? <em>Migh</em>t have been a dream&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>I see you’re short-listed for Best Blog. Well done.</p></blockquote>
<p>Tanks very mush. Same to yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Bock the Robber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bock the Robber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see you're short-listed for Best Blog.  Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you&#8217;re short-listed for Best Blog.  Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, i remember it being shown quite well, it caused a hell of a shitstorm on Mailbag, hah remember that show.  I think it was the visitors eating mice that upset people the most.  I was about 8 or 9 when it was shown first, but never really picked up on the nazi connotations until it was repeated on sky around 1989 1990. the concentration camps were replaced by the food processing facilities, the hitler youth was replaced with the brown uniformed visitor friends, like you said, the scientists were to symbolise the jews.  Even the red and black insignia of the visitors was similar to the swastika.

Back then though whether it be through lack of know how, RTE were less likely to cut a movie/mini series to bits as quick as say the BBC were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, i remember it being shown quite well, it caused a hell of a shitstorm on Mailbag, hah remember that show.  I think it was the visitors eating mice that upset people the most.  I was about 8 or 9 when it was shown first, but never really picked up on the nazi connotations until it was repeated on sky around 1989 1990. the concentration camps were replaced by the food processing facilities, the hitler youth was replaced with the brown uniformed visitor friends, like you said, the scientists were to symbolise the jews.  Even the red and black insignia of the visitors was similar to the swastika.</p>
<p>Back then though whether it be through lack of know how, RTE were less likely to cut a movie/mini series to bits as quick as say the BBC were.</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;the nazi references were very overt.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



For Jews see "Scientists". Kids getting beaten up in school because their parents were scientists. Scientists homes being burnt out etc.

Richard Dawkins would have a fit.

I actually thought the brain-washing machine was quite an effective idea/image. Solved the problem of how to show torture without censorious forces having to intervene too much.

It still freaked my parents out though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the nazi references were very overt.</p></blockquote>
<p>For Jews see &#8220;Scientists&#8221;. Kids getting beaten up in school because their parents were scientists. Scientists homes being burnt out etc.</p>
<p>Richard Dawkins would have a fit.</p>
<p>I actually thought the brain-washing machine was quite an effective idea/image. Solved the problem of how to show torture without censorious forces having to intervene too much.</p>
<p>It still freaked my parents out though.</p>
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		<title>By: squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iesb.net

I believe it was '85 and not '83 when RTE showed this, although back then Westward Cables hadn't reached the part of the city i was living in, come to think of it, I think that same part of the city is still without cable.

Watched the DVDs more recently as a relative of mine had them.  the nazi references were very overt.

A brain washing machine was a bit much, but it kind jumped the shark with the whole star child thing.

They made it into a weekly series which was aired on Sky (I even think ITV showed it in the late eighties when they went to 24 hour broadcasting) That was a bit of a crock though.

Interesting interview &lt;a href="http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&#38;task=view&#38;id=4252&#38;Itemid=99" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; with V's creator, we could be seeing the second generation on the big screen.  Now that would be damn cool

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iesb.net</p>
<p>I believe it was &#8216;85 and not &#8216;83 when RTE showed this, although back then Westward Cables hadn&#8217;t reached the part of the city i was living in, come to think of it, I think that same part of the city is still without cable.</p>
<p>Watched the DVDs more recently as a relative of mine had them.  the nazi references were very overt.</p>
<p>A brain washing machine was a bit much, but it kind jumped the shark with the whole star child thing.</p>
<p>They made it into a weekly series which was aired on Sky (I even think ITV showed it in the late eighties when they went to 24 hour broadcasting) That was a bit of a crock though.</p>
<p>Interesting interview <a href="http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=4252&amp;Itemid=99" rel="nofollow">here</a> with V&#8217;s creator, we could be seeing the second generation on the big screen.  Now that would be damn cool</p>
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