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		<title>By: fústar</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2008/05/15/lousy-human-bastards/#comment-77745</link>
		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meant to reply to this conversation earlier but had football on my mind.

Fully agree with Jason. &lt;em&gt;Conquest&lt;/em&gt; is the only one that even comes close to the weird brilliance of the original and while it's a pity that the bleaker (more violent) ending wasn't left stand, its conclusion remains pretty satisfactory.

You're not wrong about the cheapness of &lt;em&gt;Battle&lt;/em&gt;, Martin. It's essentially little better (in terms of ambition) than a feature length episode of the TV show (which I haven't yet revisited). 

&lt;em&gt;Escape&lt;/em&gt; is pretty entertaining, and was probably my favourite when I was a nipper. It's pretty ludicrous as Sci-fi though (how and why are they here again?) and doesn't really stand up all that well when viewed with adult eyes. The "apes go shopping" sequence, in particular, is tough going!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant to reply to this conversation earlier but had football on my mind.</p>
<p>Fully agree with Jason. <em>Conquest</em> is the only one that even comes close to the weird brilliance of the original and while it&#8217;s a pity that the bleaker (more violent) ending wasn&#8217;t left stand, its conclusion remains pretty satisfactory.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not wrong about the cheapness of <em>Battle</em>, Martin. It&#8217;s essentially little better (in terms of ambition) than a feature length episode of the TV show (which I haven&#8217;t yet revisited). </p>
<p><em>Escape</em> is pretty entertaining, and was probably my favourite when I was a nipper. It&#8217;s pretty ludicrous as Sci-fi though (how and why are they here again?) and doesn&#8217;t really stand up all that well when viewed with adult eyes. The &#8220;apes go shopping&#8221; sequence, in particular, is tough going!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spooky - watched all 5 movies last month and then I find this post. Conquest gets better every time and I love Escape too. Battle still annoys me though because it could've been cool but was made so cheap...

When time allows, next up, re-watching the entire TV series...

FIGHT LIKE APES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spooky - watched all 5 movies last month and then I find this post. Conquest gets better every time and I love Escape too. Battle still annoys me though because it could&#8217;ve been cool but was made so cheap&#8230;</p>
<p>When time allows, next up, re-watching the entire TV series&#8230;</p>
<p>FIGHT LIKE APES!</p>
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		<title>By: niall</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 20:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rather like to think that Ricardo himself freaked.  Assessing his McGoohan-worthy appetite for furniture {which has never failed to send me into fits of happy delirium} and preternatural ability to sell sham holy relics, the man appears to be invincible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rather like to think that Ricardo himself freaked.  Assessing his McGoohan-worthy appetite for furniture {which has never failed to send me into fits of happy delirium} and preternatural ability to sell sham holy relics, the man appears to be invincible.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Hyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Hyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conquest is easily my favorite of the Apes sequels and really the only one I'd say can go up against the first film. I'd love to see it before the powers that be at Fox softened the ending.

I was recently reminded of how great Ricardo Montalban is when I saw him playing a master spy with a crippling fear of children in an episode of Man from UNCLE. The clash of Montalban vs. Robert Vaughn was nearly the equal of the one with Shatner, especially when Vaughn would send a group of teenagers in Montalban's direction in order to make his escape (and this happened at least twice). Ricardo pretty much freaked. It was beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conquest is easily my favorite of the Apes sequels and really the only one I&#8217;d say can go up against the first film. I&#8217;d love to see it before the powers that be at Fox softened the ending.</p>
<p>I was recently reminded of how great Ricardo Montalban is when I saw him playing a master spy with a crippling fear of children in an episode of Man from UNCLE. The clash of Montalban vs. Robert Vaughn was nearly the equal of the one with Shatner, especially when Vaughn would send a group of teenagers in Montalban&#8217;s direction in order to make his escape (and this happened at least twice). Ricardo pretty much freaked. It was beautiful.</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, thanks for that. I figured it must have been a campus,  conference centre or something of that sort. Did the Uni regularly summon students to their classes with calls of "Attention! Atention! Clear the main plaza and proceed to Education Area 5"?

Please tell me they did.

Sam, Gairloch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, thanks for that. I figured it must have been a campus,  conference centre or something of that sort. Did the Uni regularly summon students to their classes with calls of &#8220;Attention! Atention! Clear the main plaza and proceed to Education Area 5&#8243;?</p>
<p>Please tell me they did.</p>
<p>Sam, Gairloch?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those brutalist lumps of concrete in 'Conquest of the Planet of the Apes' are actually large chunks of the UC Irvine campus.  

when I was living there a few years back we had a viewing of 'Conquest' just to check out the buildings we could recognise.

this page has more details (and stills):

http://www.ics.uci.edu/~jpd/misc/apecity.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those brutalist lumps of concrete in &#8216;Conquest of the Planet of the Apes&#8217; are actually large chunks of the UC Irvine campus.  </p>
<p>when I was living there a few years back we had a viewing of &#8216;Conquest&#8217; just to check out the buildings we could recognise.</p>
<p>this page has more details (and stills):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ics.uci.edu/~jpd/misc/apecity.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ics.uci.edu/~jpd/misc/apecity.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam, Problemchildbride</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam, Problemchildbride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 00:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;"It's a bit like Basingstoke - only with slightly more police brutality and monkey slavery."&lt;/em&gt;

Ah, got you. Gairloch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;It&#8217;s a bit like Basingstoke - only with slightly more police brutality and monkey slavery.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Ah, got you. Gairloch.</p>
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