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		<title>By: niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He still is, but is safely ensconced in layers of bubblewrap and cardboard in a remote storage facility located in South Chicago.  There's no way he could be of any harm there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He still is, but is safely ensconced in layers of bubblewrap and cardboard in a remote storage facility located in South Chicago.  There&#8217;s no way he could be of any harm there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Hyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Hyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyway, Fústar, I’d be remiss not to respond to your conflation of satanic simians and crass commercialism with this old gem, which has haunted my dreams for almost eight years.

Remember that one, Jason?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All too well, I'm afraid. Do you still have the one you got at Uncle Fun? Charlie Chimp was his name, wasn't it? He was made of solid evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyway, Fústar, I’d be remiss not to respond to your conflation of satanic simians and crass commercialism with this old gem, which has haunted my dreams for almost eight years.</p>
<p>Remember that one, Jason?</p></blockquote>
<p>All too well, I&#8217;m afraid. Do you still have the one you got at Uncle Fun? Charlie Chimp was his name, wasn&#8217;t it? He was made of solid evil.</p>
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		<title>By: niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll just, erm, hang out here awhile.  Until the monkey's gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll just, erm, hang out here awhile.  Until the monkey&#8217;s gone.</p>
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		<title>By: niall</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2008/05/19/dreadful-thoughts-story-club-6-green-tea/#comment-77316</link>
		<dc:creator>niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, both Swedenborg and Hesselius are likely Swedish names.  The languages themselves aren't the tracks in the mash-up {tangentially, I fear that the "You Can't Fight It" song is a mash-up, but I so desperately want it to be real} as much as the eras - &lt;em&gt;epistemes&lt;/em&gt; - they represent.

Why a monkey, of all things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, both Swedenborg and Hesselius are likely Swedish names.  The languages themselves aren&#8217;t the tracks in the mash-up {tangentially, I fear that the &#8220;You Can&#8217;t Fight It&#8221; song is a mash-up, but I so desperately want it to be real} as much as the eras - <em>epistemes</em> - they represent.</p>
<p>Why a monkey, of all things?</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, time for me to down a bucket of the greenest tea and then away to bed for a restless night of terror. Talk on the morrow. 

'Night. 

[Exit, pursued by a monkey]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, time for me to down a bucket of the greenest tea and then away to bed for a restless night of terror. Talk on the morrow. </p>
<p>&#8216;Night. </p>
<p>[Exit, pursued by a monkey]</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2008/05/19/dreadful-thoughts-story-club-6-green-tea/#comment-77314</link>
		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyway, Fústar, I’d be remiss not to respond to your conflation of satanic simians and crass commercialism with this old gem, which has haunted my dreams for almost eight years.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think the little guy in the post's sidebar image responds to my conflation freakily enough! In fact, he may even be the very same cymbal-wielding, soul-stealing chimp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyway, Fústar, I’d be remiss not to respond to your conflation of satanic simians and crass commercialism with this old gem, which has haunted my dreams for almost eight years.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think the little guy in the post&#8217;s sidebar image responds to my conflation freakily enough! In fact, he may even be the very same cymbal-wielding, soul-stealing chimp.</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
		<link>http://www.fustar.info/2008/05/19/dreadful-thoughts-story-club-6-green-tea/#comment-77313</link>
		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The recursive frames and allusions to translation strike me as sly commentary about our means of preserving - and transmitting - knowledge, sacred or otherwise.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Interesting point. Jennings' convictions about the nature of his condition seem to be based on a mashing together of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Swedenborg" rel="nofollow"&gt;Swedenborg&lt;/a&gt; (Latin) and Hesselius (German?). 

In contrast, too, to the painstaking process by which he acquires this knowledge the voice of the monkey (and its message) "comes like a singing through [his] head".

Not sure where I'm going with this, but it leads somewhere!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The recursive frames and allusions to translation strike me as sly commentary about our means of preserving - and transmitting - knowledge, sacred or otherwise.</p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting point. Jennings&#8217; convictions about the nature of his condition seem to be based on a mashing together of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Swedenborg" rel="nofollow">Swedenborg</a> (Latin) and Hesselius (German?). </p>
<p>In contrast, too, to the painstaking process by which he acquires this knowledge the voice of the monkey (and its message) &#8220;comes like a singing through [his] head&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not sure where I&#8217;m going with this, but it leads somewhere!</p>
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		<title>By: niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyway, Fústar, I'd be remiss not to respond to your conflation of satanic simians and crass commercialism with &lt;a href="http://disturbingauctions.com/view.php?item=55"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; old gem, which has haunted my dreams for almost eight years.

Remember that one, Jason?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway, Fústar, I&#8217;d be remiss not to respond to your conflation of satanic simians and crass commercialism with <a href="http://disturbingauctions.com/view.php?item=55">this</a> old gem, which has haunted my dreams for almost eight years.</p>
<p>Remember that one, Jason?</p>
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		<title>By: niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gott im Himmel.  I'm sorry, monkey, whatever it was, I didn't mean it!  Stay away!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gott im Himmel.  I&#8217;m sorry, monkey, whatever it was, I didn&#8217;t mean it!  Stay away!</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick search of QVC using the term "monkey" reveals the following horror..

&lt;div class="img-center"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.fustar.info/wp-content/images/qvc-monkey.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

We're assured and comforted that..



&lt;blockquote&gt;Getting a hug from this plush Humbold's wooly monkey is like getting a hug from the real thing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



I don't want a hug from the real thing, the &lt;em&gt;unreal&lt;/em&gt; thing, or that completely freaky stuffed monstrosity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick search of QVC using the term &#8220;monkey&#8221; reveals the following horror..</p>
<div class="img-center"><img src="http://www.fustar.info/wp-content/images/qvc-monkey.jpg" alt="" /></div>
<p>We&#8217;re assured and comforted that..</p>
<blockquote><p>Getting a hug from this plush Humbold&#8217;s wooly monkey is like getting a hug from the real thing.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t want a hug from the real thing, the <em>unreal</em> thing, or that completely freaky stuffed monstrosity!</p>
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		<title>By: niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we should consider some of JS' writerly conventions, now?  We've touched upon them already, but I think a stock-taking would be profitable.  The recursive frames and allusions to translation strike me as sly commentary about our means of preserving - and transmitting - knowledge, sacred or otherwise.

I keep returning to this sentence:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Than such a conclusion nothing could be, I insisted, less  warranted; and not only so, but more  contrary to facts, as disclosed in his mysterious deliverance from that murderous influence during his Shropshire excursion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That &lt;em&gt;had&lt;/em&gt; to have been written in German before our humble obedient translated it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we should consider some of JS&#8217; writerly conventions, now?  We&#8217;ve touched upon them already, but I think a stock-taking would be profitable.  The recursive frames and allusions to translation strike me as sly commentary about our means of preserving - and transmitting - knowledge, sacred or otherwise.</p>
<p>I keep returning to this sentence:</p>
<blockquote><p>Than such a conclusion nothing could be, I insisted, less  warranted; and not only so, but more  contrary to facts, as disclosed in his mysterious deliverance from that murderous influence during his Shropshire excursion.</p></blockquote>
<p>That <em>had</em> to have been written in German before our humble obedient translated it.</p>
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		<title>By: niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A shopping addiction.  We're back to the monkey on the back, then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A shopping addiction.  We&#8217;re back to the monkey on the back, then.</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nicely spotted. In the present age, Jennings would have been found with Eastenders on the telly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ha! Or, better yet, &lt;em&gt;Fair City&lt;/em&gt;. I can think of few quotes that sum up &lt;em&gt;its&lt;/em&gt; stupefying and depressing effects more that the above (and below):

&lt;blockquote&gt;There is in its motion an indefinable power to dissipate thought, and to contract one’s attention to that monotony, till the ideas shrink, as it were, to a point, and at last to nothing…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, I've cracked it. The "monkey" is but a 19th century manifestation of QVC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nicely spotted. In the present age, Jennings would have been found with Eastenders on the telly.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha! Or, better yet, <em>Fair City</em>. I can think of few quotes that sum up <em>its</em> stupefying and depressing effects more that the above (and below):</p>
<blockquote><p>There is in its motion an indefinable power to dissipate thought, and to contract one’s attention to that monotony, till the ideas shrink, as it were, to a point, and at last to nothing…</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;ve cracked it. The &#8220;monkey&#8221; is but a 19th century manifestation of QVC.</p>
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		<title>By: niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely spotted.  In the present age,  Jennings would have been found with &lt;em&gt;Eastenders&lt;/em&gt; on the telly.

Also,

&lt;blockquote&gt;there’s a third level - as the account that reaches us is mediated through a former student of the good Doctor’s. Jennings &gt;&gt; Hesselius &gt;&gt; Our Editor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translating a polyglot text with as many protestations and disclaimers as can be found at the end of the letter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely spotted.  In the present age,  Jennings would have been found with <em>Eastenders</em> on the telly.</p>
<p>Also,</p>
<blockquote><p>there’s a third level - as the account that reaches us is mediated through a former student of the good Doctor’s. Jennings >> Hesselius >> Our Editor.</p></blockquote>
<p>Translating a polyglot text with as many protestations and disclaimers as can be found at the end of the letter!</p>
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		<title>By: fústar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fústar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The accounts of the monkey’s visitations are presented very vividly, but then we are getting them from a none-too-reliable narrator who in turn got them from a none-too-reliable source. That’s a lot of obfuscating.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Very true. And there's a &lt;em&gt;third&lt;/em&gt; level - as the account that reaches us is mediated through a former student of the good Doctor's. Jennings &gt;&gt; Hesselius &gt;&gt; Our Editor.

Going back to shaky notions of self, the monkey clearly seems to threaten a destruction of the Ego. Jennings lives a scholarly life and his tormentor tries to induce in him a listlessness and torpor. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;There is in its motion an indefinable power to dissipate thought, and to contract one's attention to that monotony, till the ideas shrink, as it were, to a point, and at last to nothing...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not only a physical death, then, but an intellectual one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The accounts of the monkey’s visitations are presented very vividly, but then we are getting them from a none-too-reliable narrator who in turn got them from a none-too-reliable source. That’s a lot of obfuscating.</p></blockquote>
<p>Very true. And there&#8217;s a <em>third</em> level - as the account that reaches us is mediated through a former student of the good Doctor&#8217;s. Jennings >> Hesselius >> Our Editor.</p>
<p>Going back to shaky notions of self, the monkey clearly seems to threaten a destruction of the Ego. Jennings lives a scholarly life and his tormentor tries to induce in him a listlessness and torpor. </p>
<blockquote><p>There is in its motion an indefinable power to dissipate thought, and to contract one&#8217;s attention to that monotony, till the ideas shrink, as it were, to a point, and at last to nothing&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Not only a physical death, then, but an intellectual one.</p>
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